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   Stephen Moretti PERMALINK

   Nov 29, 2007 at 9:29 AM

   XMLRPC Plugin - make sure you install the trunk version and not the release version. Otherwise it won't work properly in trac or with Mylyn. (http://snipurl.com/trac011mylyn)

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   Snake PERMALINK

   Oct 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM

   Why not use visualSVN, then you don;t need to install Apache as it works great on IIS.

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   Big Mad Kev PERMALINK *

   Oct 19, 2008 at 3:09 PM

   Because I would rather have more control over what goes on, then install something that could limit what I can do a later date.
   
   And that fact that Apache is much more Powerful then IIS and more secure.

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   Snake PERMALINK

   Oct 19, 2008 at 4:08 PM

   Actually the comment about Apache being more powerful and more secure than IIS was once true many years ago, but is no longer the case, nor has it been for a long time. You should do some research before making such a statement otherwise you are no different than the people who say "ColdFusion is dead".

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   Big Mad Kev PERMALINK *

   Oct 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM

   Well, seeing I have to use IIS in my production environment I find it very annoying that I have to buy all these add-ons to do the things that Apache does out the box.
   
   Also when my developers are working on their local machines (Win XP Pro) They can only run one website at a time, and have to use some SPECIAL software to run more then one website on the machine without having to reset it all the time. (As we are on Windows 2003 in production we can't upgrade to Vista else we may get issues with deployments / unlike with Apache that wouldn't be been an Issue)
   
   Also by using Apache you are platform agnostic, there is nothing that IIS does that Apache doesn't but there are certainly a lot of things that IIS doesn't do that I can in Apache and thus makes Apache a much more powerful option.
   
   The fact that there are point release with Apache with Security / performance fixes again shows they care and also will work on any version (in this case to be fair of recent windows editions). Where as with IIS you tend to be stuck with the current version until you BUY the next buggy release of Windows.
   
   Open Source Software gives you more control sometimes then closed software. But sometimes and certainly in the case of ColdFusion closed software can be more powerful. It all depends on the eye of the beer holder ;)
   
   With the fact that ColdFusion also runs on multiple platforms as does Apache means you really can use the best of bread to create the platform you need.

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   Alan K. Wootton PERMALINK

   Oct 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM

   @Snake If you do your research correctly you will see that:
   
   "VisualSVN is a Visual Studio plugin for Subversion integration. VisualSVN adds transparent and professional source control to the most widely used IDE on the Windows platform." that costs money per seat.
   
   And if you meant the server:
   
   "VisualSVN Server is a package that contains everything you need to install, configure and manage Subversion server for your team on Windows platform. It includes Subversion, Apache and a management console." Which is free.
   
   Doesn't seem to mention IIS there or anywhere on the site.

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   Snake PERMALINK

   Oct 30, 2008 at 12:44 AM

   Thanks for your insight Alan, I was of course not talking about the Visual Studio plugin, that has nothing to do with this topic. I was referring to the VisualSVN server, which I do in fact use myself, thus my post.
   
   Kevin, your comments about developing with IIS are certainly true, it is a pain only having 1 site with XP. These limitation does not exist with Vista/IIS7, so they got something right there, sadly I would not encourage anyone to install Vista though. But whichever way you go it is always best to develop on the same system you will be deploying on.
   But that was not the point in case, the point was that Apache is not more powerful or more secure than IIS.
   
   FYI, most of the IIS plugins we use are free too, just like their Apache equivalents, and those that aren't come with support and regular updates, which can often be better than waiting for the open source community to fix something, as you can hardly moan at someone to fix something when you haven't even paid for it. But that is simply a matter a preference and often a commercial decision for most people, like choosing PHP over CF. I have nothing against Apache, I simply choose to use IIS and my company choose to run windows/IIS servers.

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   Big Mad Kev PERMALINK *

   Oct 31, 2008 at 9:24 AM

   @Russ
   
   Relating toyour post on VisualSVN as Alan rightly points out it uses Apache under the engine, I have looked at he site and find no reference to it being used with IIS which is what your point was after all and thus Alan was right to highlight this.
   
   As for the IIS / Apache you may well be right. But with the fact you have said and agreed with the limitation of IIS on windows XP and also identified that you don't encourage anyone to develop on Vista (Which doesn't have the limitation)
   
   I will leave this here, as I stand by the fact that Apache is much more Flexible and Powerful even for the reason of Multi Platform and Multiple Sites in both Dev and Production environments.

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